Missing dip stick, 914 1.7 missing tube and stick? Options

[PapaNorse]

Hi all! first time post and I am a novice on 914s. Is this the right tube for the 1.7?Dip stick tube
I cant seem to find on that definitively says its for a 1.7.
Thank you for any thoughts!

[914Sixer]

From this angle it does not look like 914 case. Look at the location in picture. Could be any size bore.

[PapaNorse]

This is the only bore I can find.

[Jack Standz]

Looks like a VW bus case from a 1.7. Carbs are typical bus ones. No dipstick or provision for one in the tin. See if there's a dipstick next to the driver's side of the fan.

The dipstick in your link is not form a 914.

Best wishes for your project!

[Jack Standz]

Sorry, yes that's where a 914 dipstick should be. Maybe someone pulled it out or broke it during ma rebuild?

Could be a 914 motor, check the fan area for a dipstick. What's the case number?

If this motor originally came from a bus, the dipstick tube was blocked off at the case or it's still there (between the fan and the alternator).

[PapaNorse]

VC75821 Thank you for your thoughts on this.. Super appreciated

[porschetub]

Hi all! first time post and I am a novice on 914s. Is this the right tube for the 1.7?Dip stick tube
I cant seem to find on that definitively says its for a 1.7.
Thank you for any thoughts!

Possible it's a bus motor with 914 fan housing and oil filler/breather ,the bus/411 case has an oil tube which incorporates the dipstick ,if you have this you cut the filler tube off and weld it closed as I have done when using the 914 oil filler/breather.
The fan if a bus one it will need the timing marks redone to the same marks as the 914 fan unless that is already fitted ,cheers.

[Jack Standz]

VC75821 Thank you for your thoughts on this.. Super appreciated

Can't find that number. Post a photo of it please.

[PapaNorse]

What are the chances this is it? Bottom left corner of picture is passenger rear. maybe dual carbs were put in? BTW I found out from the engine id its a 1.8.

[Jack Standz]

That isn't the dipstick tube, it's the cylinder head temperature (CHT) sensor grommet.

Definitely could be a 1.8 liter case. Displacement could always be different now if someone has changed the crankshaft or cylinders.

What engine I'd # did you find?

[fiacra]

Here's a picture of the location of the dipstick tube on my 1975 1.8. Looks like you have the penetration through the tin but are missing the tube and dipstick. Needs a bit more investigation on your part to find out what the story is. Just to let us confirm what your engine is post a picture of the case number. The back story on this engine might also help us help you. There is definitely some funky stuff going on there. Never a good sign to see duct tape....

[Jack Standz]

Kinda gunshy lately with guessing about 914 stuff, have missed a few.

But, I've been thinking it might be a 411/412 motor because of the carbs on it. The dipstick should be in the same place on a 411 as a 914, so that's odd too that it's missing (although the tin has a provision for the dipstick tube). Could be someone removed it, but why?

The case number should help figure out what this motor came from the factory in.

[wonkipop]

Kinda gunshy lately with guessing about 914 stuff, have missed a few.

But, I've been thinking it might be a 411/412 motor because of the carbs on it. The dipstick should be in the same place on a 411 as a 914, so that's odd too that it's missing (although the tin has a provision for the dipstick tube). Could be someone removed it, but why?

The case number should help figure out what this motor came from the factory in.

yeah maybe.

74 Bus was a 1.8 with carbs in 49 states.
but was L jet in california.
i think 1.8 in a bus was one year only for USA but don't quote me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
i am by no means an expert of buses of any sort. don't drive them wouldn't want to own one - we used to call them gum tree magnets down here.
bizarrely a batch of 1.8 L jet buses ended up in australia for god knows what reason as our emissions regs at that time did not require it. they are the subject of folk lore here if you can find one apparently.
as to the 411/412, no twin carb 411/412s ever in USA. all either D jet or for 74 L jet.
variant 411/412s had a remote dipstick through the tailgate reveal, but 411/412 sedans and fastbacks had the dipstick in same position as 914 based on what info i have on the VW L jet cars. assume it was same for the earlier d jet type 4 VWs.

there would be no real way to tell from the engine numbers on the case whether its a 411/412 or 914 i believe. engine numbering first letters shared with the VW sedans.
EC in the case of the 1.8s. maybe with the bus? i'd have to check but i believe it is not labelled as an EC engine. same goes for the EAs and EBs - all shared with the 411/412s.

i think that engine or at least the case is probably at best from a 411/412 variant (which is good - means basically it is a 914 engine) or at worst its a bus case (which is not basically a 914 engine at all if its also got other bus items like camshaft for instance).

[bdstone914]

Kinda gunshy lately with guessing about 914 stuff, have missed a few.

But, I've been thinking it might be a 411/412 motor because of the carbs on it. The dipstick should be in the same place on a 411 as a 914, so that's odd too that it's missing (although the tin has a provision for the dipstick tube). Could be someone removed it, but why?

The case number should help figure out what this motor came from the factory in.

One of his carb pictures shows Weber.
To my knowledge Webers were never stock on any type 4 engine.

[Jack Standz]

@PapaNorse

Still curious.

What number did you find on the case that led you to conclude this is a 1.8?

Did you find a dipstick tube between the engine fan and the alternator?

[PapaNorse]

I am batting zero... I thought this was it but I dont think it is.

[930cabman]

Kinda gunshy lately with guessing about 914 stuff, have missed a few.

But, I've been thinking it might be a 411/412 motor because of the carbs on it. The dipstick should be in the same place on a 411 as a 914, so that's odd too that it's missing (although the tin has a provision for the dipstick tube). Could be someone removed it, but why?

The case number should help figure out what this motor came from the factory in.

One of his carb pictures shows Weber.
To my knowledge Webers were never stock on any type 4 engine.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) AFAIK Solex single throat were the carbs on some early T4 engines.

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So far as the dipstick it must be a bus case

[PapaNorse]

I found the Engine ID! AT006873 Looks like a 1.7.

[Jack Standz]

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/engine_letters.php

Looks like: 1974 1.8 liter European only dual carb

And that sticker says it was a remanufactured motor from Canada, so an oddball for a US 914

[PapaNorse]

Now looking at the Webers... 34TCT... I dont know history of these cars but like earlier post said. I doubt this was stock. I also am starting to think that the bore by the oil filler is the dip stick tube entry point