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| neyen14 |
Nov 6 2025, 07:42 PM
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I am using dual Weber 40 IDF's. 96mm cylinders c35 scat cam
#1 The Original "velocity stack" is a straight shot down the throat of the carb. #2 Shorter shinier velocity stack is for 40 - 48 IDF and leaves about a 1/8" lip at the top plate of the carb #3 The taller less shiny velocity stack says it is for DRLA & IDF 36 - 40mm but leaves about a 1/16" lip at the top plate of the carb I started to widen the inside of the #1 Original and thought it better to have a straight shot down the throat then it would be to have any bit of a lip.... however, I was recommended to use the non original velocity stacks and don't worry about the lip, they've "found it doesn't affect performance".... which seems counterintuitive to the ideas of porting, polishing, and general flow etc 1. Do you think opening up the original velocity stack and having the straight shot is worth it? 2. Should I not worry about the lip? 3. Is there a stack that would fit the 40 IDF specifically without covering a range? Attached thumbnail(s) |
| neyen14 |
Nov 6 2025, 08:53 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 2-December 07 From: New York Member No.: 8,408 Region Association: North East States |
Here's an above view with each
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| Front yard mechanic |
Nov 6 2025, 09:13 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,389 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None
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Can’t you get taller air cleaners and use the tall stacks
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| neyen14 |
Nov 7 2025, 01:40 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 2-December 07 From: New York Member No.: 8,408 Region Association: North East States |
Can’t you get taller air cleaners and use the tall stacks The height of the stacks isn't the problem.... it's the inside diameter of the stacks compared to the inside diameter of the opening of the "top plate" or opening of the carb. Attached thumbnail(s) |
| Jack Standz |
Nov 7 2025, 03:24 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 578 Joined: 15-November 19 From: Happy Place (& surrounding area) Member No.: 23,644 Region Association: None
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There are at least two different diameters on venturis for IDF carbs, so there might be velocity stacks with different diameters. See if your favorite carb vendor can set you up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| neyen14 |
Nov 7 2025, 05:43 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 2-December 07 From: New York Member No.: 8,408 Region Association: North East States |
There are at least two different diameters on venturis for IDF carbs, so there might be velocity stacks with different diameters. See if your favorite carb vendor can set you up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Good morning! Thx you Mr. Standz (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif). I think I'm all set with the venturi at least until I see how it runs. The issue is the area well above the venturi. It was the vendor that told me not to worry about the lip created by the wider inside diameter velocity stack (I tried to show in these picture). The stacks seem to be only sold like a one size fits all 40mm -48mm or 36mm - 40mm..... same with the air cleaners now that you mention it lol Thank you |
| Jamie |
Nov 7 2025, 07:42 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,163 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States
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Here's an above view with each The flow dynamics of velocity stacks goal is to create a straight column of air induction into the carb throat without interruption. Any deviation of the straight induction usually creates turbulence, and that reduces input flow. For a full on high RPM race engine that disruption might be significant, but for a street engine the reduction of intake air flow would not likely be notable. The design of an air cleaner for the intakes would be of concern, as any restriction there would be of more relevant for race engines with greater intake air flow requirements, less so for a lower RPM street engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
| stownsen914 |
Nov 7 2025, 09:01 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 971 Joined: 3-October 06 From: Ossining, NY Member No.: 6,985 Region Association: None |
You don't want to have a ledge/lip at the velocity stack / carb interface. As mentioned above, it disrupts the air flow and kinda negates the benefit of a velocity stack. You should be able to find stacks with the correct ID for a reasonable price.
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| neyen14 |
Nov 7 2025, 09:35 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 2-December 07 From: New York Member No.: 8,408 Region Association: North East States |
Here's an above view with each The flow dynamics of velocity stacks goal is to create a straight column of air induction into the carb throat without interruption. Any deviation of the straight induction usually creates turbulence, and that reduces input flow. For a full on high RPM race engine that disruption might be significant, but for a street engine the reduction of intake air flow would not likely be notable. The design of an air cleaner for the intakes would be of concern, as any restriction there would be of more relevant for race engines with greater intake air flow requirements, less so for a lower RPM street engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Thank you for this feedback.... pretty much the way I understand it. Even though I have no plan to race it I'd still like to have it be all around as efficient as possible. I'm gonna continue widening the inside diameter of stacks that came with the carb being that they line up perfectly... the go from there. |
| neyen14 |
Nov 7 2025, 09:42 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 2-December 07 From: New York Member No.: 8,408 Region Association: North East States |
You don't want to have a ledge/lip at the velocity stack / carb interface. As mentioned above, it disrupts the air flow and kinda negates the benefit of a velocity stack. You should be able to find stacks with the correct ID for a reasonable price. Thank you, and correct, I definitely don't want the ledge. As I mentioned above I'm going to start by widening the id of the stacks that came with the carb.... I was hoping someone can share stacks that they've found that fit well.... I bought two sets and they don't fit well at all (that when the last vendor said it doesn't matter) Whatsoever, thank you |
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