Have You Lubed Your Frog? Options

[bkrantz]

As mentioned in my renegade door latch thread, I am trying a different lube instead of grease in the latch.

Frog Lube was developed for use in guns. It is a liquid that dries to leave a very slick and durable surface. I was tempted to try it after ready this exhaustive comparison test, where Frog Lube came out as one of the best, especially in durability in weather and in very low friction.

https://dayattherange.com/gun-care-product-evaluation/

Let's see how it holds up in a 914 door latch.

[StarBear]

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Most interested in the outcome.

[Robarabian]

BE CAREFUL WITH FROGLUBE


I am an experience firearms instructor. I made the mistake of switching the entire police department to Frog Lube years ago. (I'm now retired)

It cleans like Crazy, I have a YouTube video cleaning a greasy 914 engine case exterior.

BUT... it gets sticky if you use more than a few drops on anything, and it does not like the cold if you use too much and gums up. When I say gums up, it is like glue. With heat, it turns liquid again.

Also, Froglube's cleaning properties ATTACK any other oil. So to get it off, you have to ultrasonic clean the crap out of what you put it on, or any other lubricant you use after application, it will attack and break down it down, causing gooey mess. You cannot mix Frog Lube and any other lubricant.

By way of anecdotes, I had officers who over lubed the slides on their pistols. On cold January range days in CA (so 29-34 degrees at night) we had guns go hydro lock on the slides, and it was like glue.

We experimented with the AR 15 platform as well, and the bolts were not happy. We would get some misfires as the first shot did not supply enough heat to the bolt to make it "lubricating" again...


It was invented by a navy seal (hence "Frog Lube") and it is a good product for drilling steel or anything else. Very good on drill bits etc.... When it is hot, it gets slicker. The thought being the gunpowder and explosion of the firearm will heat the slide and it will stay slick. Again, if over used, it is a gummy, sticky mess.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

[StarBear]

Great experience to share. Thanks!!!!

[bkrantz]

BE CAREFUL WITH FROGLUBE


I am an experience firearms instructor. I made the mistake of switching the entire police department to Frog Lube years ago. (I'm now retired)

It cleans like Crazy, I have a YouTube video cleaning a greasy 914 engine case exterior.

BUT... it gets sticky if you use more than a few drops on anything, and it does not like the cold if you use too much and gums up. When I say gums up, it is like glue. With heat, it turns liquid again.

Also, Froglube's cleaning properties ATTACK any other oil. So to get it off, you have to ultrasonic clean the crap out of what you put it on, or any other lubricant you use after application, it will attack and break down it down, causing gooey mess. You cannot mix Frog Lube and any other lubricant.

By way of anecdotes, I had officers who over lubed the slides on their pistols. On cold January range days in CA (so 29-34 degrees at night) we had guns go hydro lock on the slides, and it was like glue.

We experimented with the AR 15 platform as well, and the bolts were not happy. We would get some misfires as the first shot did not supply enough heat to the bolt to make it "lubricating" again...


It was invented by a navy seal (hence "Frog Lube") and it is a good product for drilling steel or anything else. Very good on drill bits etc.... When it is hot, it gets slicker. The thought being the gunpowder and explosion of the firearm will heat the slide and it will stay slick. Again, if over used, it is a gummy, sticky mess.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Thanks. Like all lubes, I tried a very small amount. I will report back after some time--sooner if I have problems.

[Front yard mechanic]

I use the p diddy brand lube it stays sticky

[76-914]

BE CAREFUL WITH FROGLUBE


I am an experience firearms instructor. I made the mistake of switching the entire police department to Frog Lube years ago. (I'm now retired)

It cleans like Crazy, I have a YouTube video cleaning a greasy 914 engine case exterior.

BUT... it gets sticky if you use more than a few drops on anything, and it does not like the cold if you use too much and gums up. When I say gums up, it is like glue. With heat, it turns liquid again.

Also, Froglube's cleaning properties ATTACK any other oil. So to get it off, you have to ultrasonic clean the crap out of what you put it on, or any other lubricant you use after application, it will attack and break down it down, causing gooey mess. You cannot mix Frog Lube and any other lubricant.

By way of anecdotes, I had officers who over lubed the slides on their pistols. On cold January range days in CA (so 29-34 degrees at night) we had guns go hydro lock on the slides, and it was like glue.

We experimented with the AR 15 platform as well, and the bolts were not happy. We would get some misfires as the first shot did not supply enough heat to the bolt to make it "lubricating" again...


It was invented by a navy seal (hence "Frog Lube") and it is a good product for drilling steel or anything else. Very good on drill bits etc.... When it is hot, it gets slicker. The thought being the gunpowder and explosion of the firearm will heat the slide and it will stay slick. Again, if over used, it is a gummy, sticky mess.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I'll bet you were was as popular as the proverbial "Turd in a Punch Bowl" in that department. I have a son that is a cop and I hear some good ones now and then. I'm going to pass this one on to him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Robarabian]

One day, over an adult beverage, I will tell you just how bad it was... I recovered.. luckily, I was "directed" by someone above me to switch to the "environmental friendly" gun cleaner, as Hoppe's and Break free were fine for decades.. but what do I know, I was jus the gun guy with no juice.

Went over like a fart in church for sure.

Best!

RA

BE CAREFUL WITH FROGLUBE


I am an experience firearms instructor. I made the mistake of switching the entire police department to Frog Lube years ago. (I'm now retired)

It cleans like Crazy, I have a YouTube video cleaning a greasy 914 engine case exterior.

BUT... it gets sticky if you use more than a few drops on anything, and it does not like the cold if you use too much and gums up. When I say gums up, it is like glue. With heat, it turns liquid again.

Also, Froglube's cleaning properties ATTACK any other oil. So to get it off, you have to ultrasonic clean the crap out of what you put it on, or any other lubricant you use after application, it will attack and break down it down, causing gooey mess. You cannot mix Frog Lube and any other lubricant.

By way of anecdotes, I had officers who over lubed the slides on their pistols. On cold January range days in CA (so 29-34 degrees at night) we had guns go hydro lock on the slides, and it was like glue.

We experimented with the AR 15 platform as well, and the bolts were not happy. We would get some misfires as the first shot did not supply enough heat to the bolt to make it "lubricating" again...


It was invented by a navy seal (hence "Frog Lube") and it is a good product for drilling steel or anything else. Very good on drill bits etc.... When it is hot, it gets slicker. The thought being the gunpowder and explosion of the firearm will heat the slide and it will stay slick. Again, if over used, it is a gummy, sticky mess.

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) I'll bet you were was as popular as the proverbial "Turd in a Punch Bowl" in that department. I have a son that is a cop and I hear some good ones now and then. I'm going to pass this one on to him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[bkrantz]

OK, just for you guys I did some science! Or at least some semi-serious testing.

I found two steel bar scrap pieces, and gave them a bit of fine sanding and then polishing. They fit together pretty close (but not a true machined contact).

[bkrantz]

I then put a couple of drops of Frog Lube between the pieces, and slid them around. The joint feels pretty slick. And the contact is wet.

[bkrantz]

The rig then went into the fridge for a few hours. When I picked it up later, with a very slight tilt, the top piece easily slid off. The still wet Frog Lube was very thin and liquid, no signs of gumming up.

[bkrantz]

Next, a few hours in the freezer.

[bkrantz]

BTW, here are the current temps in the fridge and freezer.

[bkrantz]

BTW, here are the current temps in the fridge and freezer.

[bkrantz]

Out of the freezer, and the Frog Lube is still wet and thin, and the metal bits slide easily.

So, maybe not definitive but no obvious thickening, gumming up, or sticking.

[Robarabian]

It is like that at first.. let it sit in the outside air for 2 solid weeks. separate the parts.... report back. It will get sticky. UNLESS they have changed the formulation.

If you get it hot, it will get real slick and slippery.. it is an amazing lube when hot.... but let it sit a few weeks....