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Exhaust and header mismatch issue |
Tdskip |
Jan 31 2024, 03:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Hi folks, hope everyone is doing well. Finally had some time to start assembling another project and am dealing with a mismatch in parts.
Have Sierra Madre headers and what I thought was a 1974 exhaust. Basically the headers are too long, or the flanges on the exhaust are too tall (far extended) from the rest of the muffler. Any ideas? Thanks! |
rjames |
Jan 31 2024, 03:50 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You’ve got 1.7/1.8 liter type headers and a 2.0 liter type muffler. As you’ve discovered, they won’t line up.
Either configuration will work on your car, but you can’t mix the two. Looks like Sierra Nadre doesn’t differentiate between the two styles when ordering. I’d contact them to see what’s up as their web site is misleading by stating that the headers will fit all 70-76 cars. They will, but only if you have the correct muffler to match. |
Tdskip |
Jan 31 2024, 04:04 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
You’ve got 1.7/1.8 liter type headers and a 2.0 liter type muffler. As you’ve discovered, they wont line up.won’t line up. Either configuration will work on your car, but you can’t mix the two. Looks like Sierra Nadre doesn’t differentiate between the two styles when ordering. I’d contact them to see what’s up as their web site is misleading by stating that the headers will fit all 70-76 cars. They will, but only if you have the correct muffler to match. Thank you! I will contact them, pretty frustrating. |
rjames |
Jan 31 2024, 04:09 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Showing the differences in detail: |
914Sixer |
Jan 31 2024, 04:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,872 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You have 1.7, 1.8. 2.0 ARE FLAT
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Tdskip |
Jan 31 2024, 04:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks - sent Sierra Madre a very specific email and referenced this information.
Thanks folks. |
barefoot |
Feb 1 2024, 08:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
When you get your correct muffler, check for excessive weld drop thru closing off some of the ID at those flanges. I'd obtained an old OEM 1.7 muffler with big drop thru and ground out this drop thru to get ID to the pipe size.
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VaccaRabite |
Feb 1 2024, 09:05 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,435 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Last I looked Sierra Madre does not offer their headers in the 2.0 configuration. Which is SUPER ANNOYING. I do not understand the decision to stock less popular and desirable headers for the 914.
Zach |
rhodyguy |
Feb 1 2024, 09:25 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,071 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
The picture of the headers on the SMC site clearly require 1.7/1.8 version mufflers. Expensive too. I would not waste the time sending and waiting for emails. I would call SMC directly.
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Root_Werks |
Feb 1 2024, 09:58 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,314 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
An oops for certain. I've ordered tons of stuff from SMC and would imagine they'd make this right.
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Tdskip |
Feb 1 2024, 02:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Thanks gentlemen.
I spoke to them live this morning and sent them some of the documentation from this thread. The person I spoke with was very cooperative, and they are looking into it. I also found other errors on the site that I have made them aware of. Appreciate all the responses. |
Tdskip |
Feb 6 2024, 04:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Quick update;
Sierra Madre website still listing wrong parts compatibility in multiple places Alternative part that shows available to fix their error is actually 6-8 weeks away from being available. I understand that running a vintage car business isn't the easiest thing to do, but you'd think they would care enough to prevent other people having the same issue. Frustrating. |
rjames |
Feb 6 2024, 04:59 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Totally frustrating especially since info on a web page is so easy to correct. I just ordered some stock torsion bars from them. Hopefully, what I actually get are the stock size bars.
I paid a bit more ordering through them because they had them on the shelf. Even Sway-Away didn’t have them in stock. |
Tdskip |
Feb 6 2024, 05:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Totally frustrating especially since info on a web page is so easy to correct. I just ordered some stock torsion bars from them. Hopefully, what I actually get are the stock size bars. I paid a bit more ordering through them because they had them on the shelf. Even Sway-Away didn’t have them in stock. If you need them quickly you may want to give them a call to see if they actually have them because the customer service person just told me they list everything as available. That only means they could order it for potentially months away in delivery. When it shows available on the website, they use a several day formula to show that you could have it between two and five days from now even if it isn’t something they actually have in stock |
Tdskip |
Apr 21 2024, 04:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
Hi folks - wanted to follow up to close this out.
Sierra Madre made this right. They took the incorrect ones back and gave me the sale price on the correct ones. Took three weeks but they showed up in good order and everything fits properly. Appreciate everyone’s help on this and wanted to publicly state that Sierra Madre stood by their product / customer. Thanks! |
mepstein |
Apr 21 2024, 05:58 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,254 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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rjames |
Apr 21 2024, 06:35 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good to hear!
Aldo happy to say that the new torsion bars I ordered from them were correct and matched the stock measurements. |
VaccaRabite |
Apr 22 2024, 06:30 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,435 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Does this mean that Sierra Madres actually has the correct 2.0 heat exchangers/headers now? Not just the 1.7 crap they have been peddling for the past 3 years?
Zach |
porschetub |
Apr 22 2024, 05:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Hi folks - wanted to follow up to close this out. Sierra Madre made this right. They took the incorrect ones back and gave me the sale price on the correct ones. Took three weeks but they showed up in good order and everything fits properly. Appreciate everyone’s help on this and wanted to publicly state that Sierra Madre stood by their product / customer. Thanks! Wow appears they have got their act together ?,my dealing with them were 90% difficult and products were sub standard or simply didn't fit , I agree with the comments about stock on the website as often not in stock or is incorrect in description. Perhaps they should look @ at a better business model as member vendors on here follow...food for thought as they say , I have been 100% happy with them. Rant over ,cheers. |
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